yes because it happens at a hotel it is wrong to try and stop it from happening to the place where several thousand people live together. Again it is funny. But it is not this giant scandal.
John Davis
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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John Davis
BTW I meant it is one thing to make fun of it which most people on here were doing. But it is a completely different thing to make it seem like it is a huge scandal or a conspiracy. Sure it is funny.
But you also have to think that those pillowcases get rotated around to other people after they are washed, would you wear someone else's underwear even if they were cleaned. Probably not because they touched someone else's junk.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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John Davis
It is one thing to talk about it which is whatever. But calling it a gate which started because of the Watergate scandal where laws were broken and political power was wrongly exercised is a different thing. Or putting up not just one video but two videos about how awful it is is completely different.
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Pillowgate - John Cedars
by CitizenofEarth inis this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
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John Davis
These bethel entrance videos have been around for a long time. A lot of it is just how to live in an institutionalised setting. Some in the past have dealt with proper oral and body hygiene because not all new bethelietes have the same standards of living as each other. They also go into proper decorum when at the table or during spiritual activities such as not asking the family doctor what that weird rash is at the breakfast table and waiting to make an appointment. It can also be a sensitive subject to bring up with a roommate if they are openly masturbating in the room with you there, so I am sure they found this way a lot more sensitive.
Not every little thing needs to be blown out of proportions.
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Homes for GB in Tuxido NY
by dogisgod ini was surprised that there are half (or more) million dollar estates the gb lives in.
gated communities.
close to the warwick site.
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John Davis
I did serve at Bethel at one time. I was able to learn things by actually observe things that actually occurred.
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Homes for GB in Tuxido NY
by dogisgod ini was surprised that there are half (or more) million dollar estates the gb lives in.
gated communities.
close to the warwick site.
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John Davis
The flyer is the one that keeps the frequent flyer miles even in bethel. So if you work in Legal or writting and you fly for branch business even though they pay for the ticket your the one that is keeping the flyer. So people just use their points or miles in order to upgrade when they want too. The branch or World Travel Desk will only pay for the economy class and will find the cheapest flight for all betheliets including GB members.
But not all travel is branch business. Assembly speakers is not paid for by the branch it is paid for by the circuit. Memorial speakers again not a branch trip but is paid for by the host congregation. Kingdom hall dedications again local congregation. So if a local congregation or someone who can afford to fly out a bethelite first class that is their decision to do it.
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Homes for GB in Tuxido NY
by dogisgod ini was surprised that there are half (or more) million dollar estates the gb lives in.
gated communities.
close to the warwick site.
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John Davis
There are some outside homes that are shared by some of the lawyers and the doctors of the family because they have such specialized licenses and not just anyone can do those types of jobs. Also many of the homes are converted where multiple bethelites will live in with a centralized kitchen and living room and each room will have one or two bethelites. Like Walkill had the W house it was like 10 minutes away from the main complex and something like 12 bethelites live in it. A lot of time when they bought these parcels it was owned by one person and instead of tearing down a perfectly good house they just converted them into bethel rooms.
There are also weekend cabins and homes that can be checked out on the weekends or during vacation time. It gives the bethelites someplace that is free but that they can get away from their normal routine.
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Homes for GB in Tuxido NY
by dogisgod ini was surprised that there are half (or more) million dollar estates the gb lives in.
gated communities.
close to the warwick site.
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John Davis
Where is your evidence that is occurring? Anyone who has served at the US branch especially in the last 2 or 3 decades will laugh at this. When you walk down the hall you see their names on the outside of the doors, their room numbers are in the Bethel Directory and you see them walking into their rooms in the residence constantly. In fact at Patterson and Wallkill you can stay in their rooms when they are not up at that complex, they are guest rooms. The most that they would have is a super double room that is something like 400 sq feet. This is just like the statements that Watchtower buys them any car they want and they just lounge around all day. A few of them do have nice cars but that is because usually, a friend will buy it for them.
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Larry Nasser..... WOW....
by DATA-DOG indo you think the gb are watching the live report??
will they learn from all this?
are they scared shitless as the reality of social media delivers one bitch-slap of truth after another?
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John Davis
Because the point of this thread, at least how I see it, is that the GB has to be careful because legally they may be held liable for any actions that witnesses commit against children. And DD said that he hopes that it will change our society.
My point is two-fold.
First, would you hold lawmakers complicit in the actions of those that hurt children because they allow for the age of consent to be so low such as at 13 or 14 years old? Would they be held responsible?
Second, that different societies view things differently even though you may think it is cut an dry such as when an adult is having sex with a child. Some societies have decided that the threshold is lower and others view it higher. And these are not just s***hole countries these are some modern and progressive societies.
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Larry Nasser..... WOW....
by DATA-DOG indo you think the gb are watching the live report??
will they learn from all this?
are they scared shitless as the reality of social media delivers one bitch-slap of truth after another?
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John Davis
That just because one society feels that something is wrong or illegal doesn't mean that everyone sees it the same way. And that with instances of child abuse it matters what the law states.